Forecasting Star Age for Dancing's Newest Pros
Peta, Tristan, and Val have partnered three stars each since becoming pros on Season 13 of Dancing with the Stars. Knowing the significance of star age, we can compare those triads to previous pros' and try to guess their future stars' age range.Following are brief presentations of star age percentages, triad averages, and triad extremes, followed by "best guess" forecasts.
Overall Percentages of Younger and Older Stars
Peta, who at 25-26 has been the second youngest pro in her three seasons, has consistently partnered under 40 stars. Val, also 25-26, falls into the mid-range percentage of under 40 stars. Tristan, a little older at 29-30, has yet to partner an under 40 star.
The numbers suggest that they will tend to stay in or near their current zones. Eventually, Tristan should attain the 40%-50% range shown by other pros in the gray zone, but it may take awhile. His closest comparison, Kym, stood at 25% after 8 partners. Only recently has she gotten mostly under 40 partners.
Triad Comparisons
Here are the pros' average star age across triads of stars. They are listed in order of ascending 1st triad average:
This can be relative. Mark's stars have gotten younger in later triads, probably because through 10 seasons, he remains the youngest male pro. And pro roles can change. Kym and Karina's bright "younger" triads coincide (season-wise) with Anna's gray "older" triad, suggesting that roles have shifted.
To date, Kym has the "brightest" decrease from a 1st triad average, her 4th triad being 10 years younger. Maks has the "grayest" such increase, his 4th triad average being 15 years older than his 1st. Generally, the brightest decreases from a 1st triad average have been about 5 years younger, and the grayest increases have been about 10 years older.
DWTS fans often are more interested in extremes like youngest and oldest than in averages. Here are the pros' youngest star ages across triads, listed in order of ascending 1st triad minimum:
Generally, pros' youngest stars remain consistent across triads. Maks and Kym are misleading cases, who appear to have grayed across triads, because they had unusually young (for them) stars in their 1st triads. Otherwise, Maks consistently has partnered the 30-and-over crowd, and Kym the 35-and-over crowd.
Typically, the biggest changes are plus / minus 10 years from the 1st triad minimum, although there are exceptions. For Derek, the 14 year decrease from 1st triad Shannon Elizabeth to would-be-4th triad Shawn Johnson represents the biggest drop in 1st-to-subsequent triad minimum, possibly due to the atypical All-Star season.
The biggest increase is 19 years for Anna: Her 1st triad minimum was 22-year-old Albert Reed, and her 4th triad minimum was 41-year-old Carson Kressley, who was a replacement for 70-year-old Ryan O'Neal. If not for that change, Anna's youngest 4th triad star would be have been 52-year-old Jack Wagner for an even more exceptional 30 year increase.
Now, here are the pros' oldest star ages across triads, listed in order of ascending 1st triad maximum:
Typically, pros with 1st triad maximums under age 50 had either similar maximums in subsequent triads, or older maximums by around 15-20 years. (Mark continues to be the exception, with a significantly younger 3rd triad maximum.) Pros with 1st triad maximums over age 45 tend to have either similar maximums, or about 10 years younger maximums in subsequent triads. (Note the overlap in Karina's and Anna's triads.)
The biggest decreases from 1st triad maximums are 16 years for Edyta, and 22 years for Kym. They (and Tristan) had the oldest 1st triad maximums, so were likely to get "more typical" maximums in later triads. The biggest increase on record is 26 years for Ashly, who returned in season 10 to partner 80-year-old Buzz Aldrin in an unusual circumstance. Among the regular pros, the biggest increase was 23 years for Cheryl (from Drew Lachey to Wayne Newton).
Best Guess Forecasts
So what can we guess for the newest pros?
For Peta: Her 1st triad numbers are most similar to veteran Derek's 1st triad numbers. On that comparison, we can expect Peta to get mostly under 40 stars for as long as she is one of the youngest female pros. Her future triad averages are likely to fall in the early 30's to early 40's range. Like Derek (and Chelsie), an atypical triad maximum of mid 40's to mid 50's is possible.
For Val: The closest 1st triad comparisons are Cheryl and Lacey. If Val follows a similar trajectory, then his average star ages likely will fall into the mid 30's to mid 40's range, and his oldest stars in the late 50's to early 60's range. Minimums are a little harder to forecast. The Cheryl / Lacey pattern would suggest late 20's to early 30's. But because Val and Mark currently are the youngest male pros, Val could be paired with someone younger.
For Tristan: His closest comparisons are Kym and Edyta who likewise had 1st triad stars over age 60. Unlike them, Tristan did not get an atypically young 30-year-old in his 1st triad. We can guess that his future triads will be similar to Kym's and Edyta's, with the possibility of an atypically younger partner along the way. That translates into 40-something averages, mid-to-late 30's minimums, and early 50's to early 60's maximums. His 1st triad maximum is exceptional, however, and a drop of 20+ years off the maximum, like Kym's, is possible.
We should note that those atypical age pairings mentioned in the preceding paragraphs can result from celebrity requests (e.g. Maks-Kirstie, Cheryl-Rob), physical needs (e.g. Season 4 Kym-Joey), or thematic purpose (e.g. Anna-Evan right after his Olympic gold that was criticized by Russian officials). Also, last minute partner scrambling has been rumored to result in atypical age pairings like Chelsie-Michael Bolton and the aforementioned Ashly-Buzz Aldrin.
Regarding any potential new pros introduced on Season 16: The safest blind bet is that they will fall into the "neutral" zone of 50% to 80% stars under 40, with 1st triad profiles comparable to neutral zone pros like Maks / Karina / Lacey / Val / Cheryl / Louis. That bet will be heavily affected by their relative age and height, however. (I may post a follow-up after the pro lineup has been announced.)
Finally, a personal aside: I have argued in various TWOP discussions that Val and Tristan are similar to Cheryl and Kym, respectively. Numbers like the ones presented here are partly why I think that. (Along with their personalities and their stars' personalities.) However you feel about those comparisons, remember that both Cheryl and Kym have won MBT's. :-)
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